Real Dinosaur Ancestry

In reality, the first dinosaurs shared a common ancestor with basal archosaurs, reptiles with straight fully erect leg postures and appeared during the beginning of the Triassic period, flourished throughout the Triassic, and died out at the very beginning of the Jurassic Period about 190 million years ago. Among them were Ornithosuchus, Euparkeria, Lagosuchus, Teratosaurus, and Postosuchus. They are also known to be the ancestors of pterosaurs, marine reptiles, crocodiles, and dinosaurs. You can find more about the true dinosaur ancestry right here.

Archosauromorpha

Behemoth Fallacy

Next, in the book on page 18-19 and on the web page here, we see an image of a sauropod with a thick chunky tail and stumpy legs walking past a hippo and an elephant while they’re looking on. This was made to illustrate the so-called answer to the question “Are there dinosaurs in the Bible?” The real answer to the question is yes and no. Birds, especially doves, eagles, ostriches, vultures, owls, ibis, sparrows, and pigeons are the only dinosaurs mentioned in the bible. Non avian dinosaurs like Apatosaurus, Stegosaurus, and Tyrannosaurus aren’t .

But according to Taylor, dinosaurs like Diplodocus and Brachiosaurus are mentioned in the Bible and tries to prove it by pointing to the passage of Job 40:15-24 as proof of his claim, saying that there’s no way can Behemoth be either a hippopotamus or an elephant because their tails are very small, while ignoring the fact that unlike these 2 mammals, no dinosaur had penises outside their bodies, nor do they have belly buttons either (See The Book of Job by Steven Mitchell for reference and citations on this passage.). Dinosaurs lay eggs just like birds and reptiles do and are not mammals. The passage clearly describes Behemoth as a mammal, not a reptile or a dinosaur. Note: to really know what Behemoth really is, click here.

Then Taylor claims,

After all the behemoth had died out, many people forgot about them. Dinosaurs were extinct and the fossil skeletons that are in museums today did not begin to be put together until about 150 years ago.

Does that explain why are there no dinosaur traces of any kind found in historical and archaeological records of any kind? If so, then what about the so-called claims made all over the world of people seeing many of them over the years? Kind of contradicts the faulty claim about dragons being dinosaurs people saw over the years before they became extinct during the 1700s’ just before their remains were discovered in the 1800s’, don’t it? Taylor’s ignorance and contradictions knows no bounds.

Taylor’s Edenic Fairy Tale

Next on page 20 and on the page here, Taylor tries to answer the question “Why did God created dinosaurs?” by saying that they were created to benefit mankind one-way or the other. If they were meant to benefit mankind, then how come their remains are NOT found mixed with human remains? It’s no mystery about Taylor’s ignorance. He simply uses his imagination and pretends that dinosaurs were created to benefit mankind like, for instance, having sauropods reaching out with their long necks to feed among the treetops, clearing a path in the forest to give ground growing plants a chance to grow when the sun beams down on them in a dense forest. Never mind the fact that in real life, during the Jurassic Period, sauropods cleared many a forest, creating pathways for only other dinosaurs to travel on, and gave smaller plants a chance to grow. No humans were ever alive back then.

Taylor then states that God brought to Adam all of the dinosaurs and all the rest of the animals in the Garden of Eden for inspection so that he can name the animals one by one. The problem with that is that Adam would have spent years and years and years inspecting and naming all of the 90 million + kinds of animals in the world living and extinct. With all those animals around him, it would be totally impossible for Adam just to name all those animals in one full day. It would take years for him complete this task and a very tiresome and tedious job it would be if that was the case.

To work around this problem, creationists twist the numbers of all animal genera to make it as if Adam had to name only less than 200 animals, never mind the 89,999,800 animals dead and alive that God must have forgotten to create, yet they in fact exist.

I like it much better with Adam being surrounded by only just modern animals in the Garden of Eden than what YECs depict in their drivels– ancient extinct animals living alongside of modern animals and man in an overcrowded Garden of Eden, where a stupid Barney T.rex along with all other animals living and extinct behaving oh so sickly sweet, stripping naked vegetation, bringing the plant kingdom to extinction, and rendering the garden of Eden into a dry baron wasteland, never giving the plants any chance to grow and flourish in this so called Eden-like world, where all life is supposedly bliss. Some way to delight man, HA! Dinosaurs may be impressive but were long dead by the time man first walked the earth a few million years ago and the only dinosaurs that were a lot like “a tame and obedient puppy in God’s wise powerful hands” are birds such as parrots, doves, pigeons, and parakeets.

Then Taylor explains of what life was like for the dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden on this page and he says that the first days of earth was a beautiful paradise where all is happy and peaceful eating plants the way God intended (or was it the way He intended?). There was no death (what about plant death?), no disease (The immune system would have been waste of time if that’s the case), no pain (no pain, no life), no sorrow, and no evil. If God does not want evil in the world, then why did he create it (Isaiah 45:7 KJV) along with all these things Taylor claims to have never happened before the Fall and yet allowed it all to happen? (A jackpot question atheists ask both Christian Fundamentalists and Conservatives about many times no doubt.) If there was no pain, then how come when God said to Eve that he will increase her pain during labor, this implies that there was actually pain occurring before and after the Fall? If He wants all animals to be all plant eaters then why did He create some to have sharp claws and thick, sharp, strong, carnassials, homodontical teeth and a stomach for only red food (meat) as well as to have strong legs, speed, agility, and all of the capabilities of chasing down prey?

Does Taylor ever know that plants, which are living things just like humans and animals, do die when they’re eaten? What about the hair? The hair is made up of dead cells. Does this means that Adam and Eve where all created to be bald in the first place? Were the first animals bald too? When you pick flowers from the ground, they wilt, whither, and die after a while. Even when you put them in a vase, they die. When you eat plants, they die and your stomach is doing its part to digest them, which is a form of decay.

There was death before the fall. Animals were killing plants by eating them and animals and people having hair on their bodies. So in Taylor’s fairy tale of Dinosaurs in Eden there were sickly, sweet dinosaurs, despite having sharp teeth and a stomach for meat, being forced to munch on only plants. On his site, Taylor has a list of questions he displayed here that, when clicked, takes you straight to extremely preposterous, far-fetched, and silly answers that don’t explain everything creationists like Taylor claims. The plant eating T.rex myth will be discussed and debunked on this essay later.

Taylor’s Extinction Fallacy

Next on page 22 and on this page, we find the question “Why did the dinosaurs became extinct?” This is one of earth’s greatest scientific mysteries. But did you know that there was once a far greater extinction event that has made the dinosaur extinction to look like a small, minor occurrence? This extinction event took place at the very end of the Permian period and the Paleozoic era, where 90% of all life on earth was all wiped out and only 10% have survived to repopulate the world. This is the Great Permian-Triassic Extinction, where earth nearly died around 250 million years ago. The dinosaur extinction only wiped out only 60 to 70% of life on earth including dinosaurs. The Permian extinction was far even greater. Amazingly however, the Permian extinction is little known among most people. Most people pay attention to the dinosaur extinction more than anything else in the past because dinosaurs are much more interesting and fascinating than anything else in the prehistoric past. Nevertheless, the Permian-Triassic extinction was a huge event and that paved the way for dinosaurs to appear and dominated the world for 160 million years.

References to more information about the Permian Extinction,

http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/Palaeofiles/Permian/intro.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian-Triassic_extinction_event

Taylor says that there is about 55 different theories made to explain the dinosaur extinctions. Actually there’s more than that. Some are thrown out because of lack of evidence for it. Some are just plain silly. But other theories, based on fossil evidence, are all logical and have been suggested and discussed thoroughly. One of them is the meteorite theory that says that a meteorite crash landed on earth; creating a global disaster that drastically ended the dinosaur race. Taylor, on the other hand, rejects the meteorite theory because it didn’t explain why did the birds, fish, reptiles, and mammals all survived, while the dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and marine reptiles and ammonites went to extinction. There is. Keyword: Adaptation. The survivors were capable of adapting to the climatic change; hide in natural shelters and in deep waters that protected them from the disasters that came from the meteorite and find food sources from far and wide. Others like dinosaurs (except birds) however, were unable to meet up with the occurrences of drastic changes made in both the climate and environment and eventually died out.

Taylor’s Meteorite Denial

According to his book and on this page, Taylor denies any sightings of a crater that the asteroid made when it hit the earth millions of years ago. He states, in his book on pages 22 and 23, that no large asteroid crater (or “hole” as he calls it.) has ever been found anywhere on earth, which is a blatant lie. He very ignorant of the Chicxulub crater, the crater located in the Gulf of Mexico. This crater is over 112 miles long in diameter and is the most likely culprit to have caused the dinosaur extinction. He knows that asteroids contain iridium, a mineral rarely found on earth. But he states that just because the asteroids have iridium on it doesn’t necessary mean that the asteroid was the one that caused the extinction…or does it!

Meteorites are chock full of iridium. It would take a huge major impact to create a global disaster that caused life on earth to face extinction. The impact would have sprayed very hot molten iridium ash and rock in the air and showers the land with them, causing a firestorm that burns everything in sight and ash clouds to fly in the air, blocking the sun, causing the world to plunge into darkness, trapping either intensive heat or frigid cold inside, and cause the plants to die, leading the plant-eaters and meat-eaters afterwards to starve. The Chicxulub impact made in the Gulf would cause tsunamis that engulfed the land and drown its inhabitants nearby. And finally triggered volcanoes to erupt and earthquakes that destroyed everything else in that area. Speaking of volcanoes, Paul claims the volcanoes also have iridium too. True, but what he doesn’t know is that volcanoes have far less iridium in it than what is found in meteorites. He believes that at one time, there was once volcanic eruptions and devastating earthquakes that was the greatest in history occurring during Noah’s Flood. Nowhere in the Bible that says anything about volcanoes and earthquakes. He may claim the meteorites are small, but the Chicxulub meteor was huge!! About 180 km long! And it came from the asteroid belt where 160 million years ago, a huge collision occurred, created a family of asteroids known as the Baptistina family, which the Chicxulub meteor is a part of. This collision sets the Chicxulub meteor on a direct course toward earth. It eventually enter the earth’s atmosphere and the rest is history.

Taylor’s Flood Fallacy

On pages 24-25 as well as on this page, Taylor goes on to answer the question, “Where did the fossils come from?” by claiming flat out that it was the great flood of Noah. Violent. Destructive. Covering all of the mountains of the world, even MT. Everest. With volcanoes and earthquakes and meteorites to boot. All made up to explain the evidence in the fossil record of earthquakes, flooding, volcanic eruptions, and meteor showers which actually occur each over separate periods of time spanning many millions of years in real life. And yet creationists wanted to group them all into one year long event which is impossible to do and cannot be done.

There’s nothing in the Genesis 7:11 passage that says anything about earthquakes, volcanoes, meteorites, and geysers (YECs just threw them in there to make the event more dramatic as an attempt to explain volcanic eruptions, meteor impacts, earthquakes and other major natural disaster events that have occurred each separately in ancient and prehistoric times.). Instead, massive tsunamis and huge torrential rainfall are ‘the fountains of the deep’ and ‘windows of Heaven’ that have flooded the known world in Noah’s day. Although, Taylor claims that the Garden of Eden was also destroyed along with the rest of the earth, the exact fate of the garden is completely unknown. Many theories have been put on to explain its fate including Taylor’s, but none of this has ever been proven.

Like other creationists like him, Taylor claims the violent waters of Noah’s flood formed the billions of fossils that scientists are seeing today. A tripe parroted by Ken Ham and Buddy Davis that was possibly inspired from the discovery of the Karoo Formation where up to 800 billion species of Permian fossils have been found – none has lived at the same time. If they did, the world will be a heavily over-crowded place.

Although some fossilization occurs rapidly, do creationists know that fossils form only when the conditions are just right for it to occur when the bones gradually get covered up and filled with sediment over a long period of time and the original materials have all been replaced by the minerals from the earth?

The answer is in fact no. They would rather be in a state of denial and lie for God than face reality and the evidence pointing to the opposite. Paul, on this page, states that the fossils of dinosaurs can be found washed together by the violent floodwaters and buried in mud, sand, and rock. Many of them torn apart, bones broken and jumbled-up, and buried in piles of mud, sand, and rock. Never mind the many fossils that are found perfectly intact and that the fossils of dinosaurs were formed in conditions that have nothing to do with the fabled, violent Noah’s flood such as ash falls, droughts, local floods, diseases, killed by predators, and accidents like falling off a cliff, and old age. And creationists have yet to explain why we are we also finding carnosaur loose teeth and teeth marks on the carcasses of dinosaurs YEC claimed supposedly were all laid down by the flood. Were they eating them while they are supposed to be running for their lives? What about dinosaur feces? The footprints they leave behind? The animal burrows, the amber, and the fully intact nests and eggs? These could have been washed away and destroyed in such a violent flood, but this is not the case. Turns out that the creationists’ Flood model is entirely 100% flawed!

Paul thinks that only a quick burial all what it takes to make fossils of dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals to form. Not so. Here are the rebuttals to this entire Flood Folly here.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC361.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC361_3.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC362.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC363.html

More Fossil Fallacies

Next on page 28 and on this page, Paul states that it doesn’t take millions of years for fossils to form, which is a blatant lie. Coal, Amber (Definitely!), and oil do take millions of years to form. He also claims scientists have found that wood and chicken bones can form into fossils in a matter of ten years. That’s highly doubtful unless the wood and chicken bones form into silica. He got this claim from an article in an old issue of Natural History magazine that’s written by a man named Alfred S. Romer (1894-1973), a paleontologist who wrote in an old outdated Natural History Magazine October 1959 issue, in Vol.68 on page 456 where he said the following:

“Just because something is ‘fossilized’ does not mean that it is millions (or even thousands) of years old. When the conditions and materials are right, a bone can become filled with minerals fairly quickly … Researchers have found that chicken bones and wood can be replaced with minerals in just five to ten years” (p.467).”

Sorry to say, Paul have misrepresented Alfred. who probably have said this to help explain a rapid form of fossilization called Silicification, which is a type of fossilization in which silica (SiO2) infills intercellular spaces (permineralization) or replaces the cell walls (petrifaction). I honestly have not seen the issue containing the quote. Still, this is most likely what Alfred meant when he said that in the article.

Fossils can form rapidly though the process of silification. However there are other forms of fossilization that prove to be much slower and take millions of years to perform such as unaltered preservation – insects trapped in amber, recrystallization – hard parts reverting to more stable minerals or small crystals turning into big crystals, trace fossils – fossils that make prints in shape of bones and footprints in soft dirt that eventually turned to rock, and the slowest form of all, carbonization or coalification – where only carbon remains after other elements like oxygen, hydrogen, and nitrogen are removed. Paul apparently ripped that quote out of context text and change it to fit his beliefs. Does Paul know any of Silification, Petrification, and other forms of fossilization and how the processes work? Nope, he doesn’t.

To really know about the types of fossilization and how they work, check out these references below.

http://www.zoomschool.com/subjects/dinosaurs/dinofossils/Fossiltypes.html

http://people.uncw.edu/laws/GLY135/fossiltypes.htm

http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/BIOBK/BioBookPaleo1.html

http://www.answersincreation.org/petrified2.htm

Here’s an article below that refutes a YEC claim about the Petrified flour being fossilized within a few weeks. Believe me, after you read this, you will realized that the flour as well as the miner’s hat and the cowboy boot among other YEC claims, did harden within several years to a few weeks, but the fabric, especially leather materials that made those objects are still there. No petrification ever occurred! They’re just plain fossil hoaxes made up out of ignorance of the fact that fabrics and flour don’t fossilize! If a fossil is found to have the original materials still embedded within it, it’s not a fossil. Here’s the article.

http://www.answersincreation.org/petrified.htm

Even soft materials can be replaced with minerals too. In 2005, Paleontologist Mary Schweitzer discovered a T.rex fossil with soft marrow tissues inside. YECs immediately jumped to conclusions and say that what she found proves that the earth is young and dinosaurs lived recently, all while ignoring the fact that what Mary actually found could be nothing more than slime.

And finally, here is a reference to what Silicfication is all about and how it forms on fossils.

Carson, G. A. 1991. Silicification of fossils. In: Allison, P. A. & Briggs, D. E. G. (eds), Taphonomy: Releasing data locked in the fossil record. Plenum Press, New York, pp. 455-499.

Next, Taylor states that not all of the dinosaur fossils completely turned to rock. He claims there were fossils with chemicals in them like proteins and amino acids and that there’s some fish fossils found in them with a fishy smell when first uncovered form the ground. All false. The rebuttal of the fossil chemical myth is right here.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dinosaur/osteocalcin.html

The so-called fish fossils with a fishy smell myth is likely a direct fabrication of the fact that some fossil fish, in many cases, smell like fossil fuel; oil, the substance that used in powering automobiles and house furnaces.

To learn about fossil fuel, check out these sites.

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761586407/Fossil_Fuels.html

Paul even states there are plants in New Jersey that are found in the strata where the dinosaurs are at that are neither fossilized nor turned to stone. But the claim is a direct fabrication of the great fossil discovery of amber with insects and plants that are trapped in it. Reference to the real discovery in New Jersey is here.

http://www.dinosauria.com/jdp/misc/amber.htm

Reason for the Flood

Next, on page 30-31 and on this page, Paul gives out the reason why there was the Great flood. Because of man’s evil behavior, God have no choice but to punish man wickedness with the great big flood. No big deal. But this is.

Taylor’s Ark Fallacy

Next, Taylor, on page 32 and on this page, tries to answer the question “Did Noah took up dinosaurs in the ark?” Answer: Yes and no. Noah took up only birds in the ark, which are indeed dinosaurs; the only dinosaurs to have been on the ark. No, he did not take up non-avian dinosaurs like Brachiosaurus or Stegosaurus into the ark. Taylor however states that dinosaurs like T.rex and Triceratops were taken up on the ark along with all of the other animals living and extinct. He claims that there was plenty of room for all of the animals in the ark, including dinosaurs; carefully built to fulfill the needs of the animals in the ark and many of the animals slept through most of the trip, which is all false. There is no way can 90 million + animals or about 70,000 animals fit or more into the 450×75x45 ark.

Even if he did, there will still be heavy major problem with care, maintenance, cleaning, feeding, disease, etc. Taylor even states that the dinosaurs Noah took up where all very young basic dinosaurs just like the ones in the Garden of Eden and not the varieties of them that had all developed (He’s really teaching evolution — the very same thing he regards as a lie — when he made such statements like that!) since creation. This is direct contradiction to the Bible that says Noah was to take up 2 of every kind of unclean animal, male and female, and 7 pairs of every clean animal, male and female, into the ark like God has told him to, not just the basics. Noah was also told to take up with him animals that are all sexually mature and capable of producing offspring when the Flood is over, not inexperience babies. Paul’s entire fantasy about dinosaurs on the ark just don’t hold water whatsoever. Every thing about the great flood of Noah according to YECs is all clearly debunked here.

http://www.skepticreport.com/creationism/sillyflood.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/noahs_ark.html
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/flood.htm
http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/babinski/flood.html

Hell on Earth

Then on page 34, Taylor goes on to state that after the Flood, the dinosaurs lived on earth for a few centuries before dying out due to extreme conditions that occurred after the Flood like cold weather, ice age, and men hunting them down and not finding enough food. Are plants the only secret to how the dinosaurs got big as Paul claims in the book, film, and this page here? I don’t think so! Taylor states that once there was a special atmosphere that once covered the earth before the flood, which most likely refers to the mythical vapor canopy that once covered the earth before the Flood. Taylor claims such a dome once existed on earth that contained a much higher amount of water, prolonged the lives of man, turning them along with animals into giants, kept the weather warmer and more pleasant, and allow plants to be watered only by dew, mist, rivers, and waters that flow underground instead of rain. If what Taylor claims to be the case, then the term “Hell on Earth” will have a much literal meaning. There would have been a huge, hot, uninhabitable earth similar to Venus, where everything is scaled and burned to death, if such a dome ever existed. Every claim about the mythical vapor canopy are nowadays abandoned by all but the most staunchest of all young earth creationists.

Food for thought: If God wanted to save the dinosaurs from the Flood to keep alive afterwards and yet die off completely after they have left the ark when the Flood ended, then what’s the point of rescuing them from the Flood anyway?